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Billie Eilish, hat detail, attends The BRIT Awards 2020 at The O2 Arena on February 18, 2020 in London, England.

Billie Eilish says she has a “terrible relationship” with her body in a new interview with the Guardian.

The singer, who recently swapped her signature oversized outfits for pinup-style lingerie on the May cover of British Vogue spoke out on “unattainable body standards” and her own efforts to “disassociate” from her feelings about her body when she’s performing.

“When I’m on stage, I have to disassociate from the ideas I have of my body,” the 19-year-old singer shared. “Especially because I wear clothes that are bigger and easier to move in without showing everything — they can be really unflattering. In pictures, they look like I don’t even know what. I just completely separate the two. Because I have such a terrible relationship with my body, like you would not believe, so I just have to disassociate… Then you get a paparazzi picture taken when you were running to the door and had just put anything on, and didn’t know the picture’s being taken, and you just look how you look, and everyone’s like, ‘Fat!’”

Eilish went on to share her frustrations with having her body scrutinized saying, “I mean, we only need bodies to eat and walk around and poop. We only need them to survive. It’s ridiculous that anybody even cares about bodies at all. Like, why? Why do we care? You know, when you really think about it?

“Why do we care about hair?” she continued. “Why does everybody hate body hair so much, but we literally have an enormous thing of hair on our heads, and that’s, like, cool and pretty. Like, what’s the difference? I mean, I love hair, and I do crazy things with my hair. I’m as guilty as everybody else. But it’s so weird. If you think about it hard, you go crazy.”

Her new album Happier Than Ever calls out these obsessions, with songs like “OverHeated” which calls out the body-shamers.

“It’s completely fine to get work done — do this, do that, do what makes you feel happy,” she explained. “It’s just when you deny it and say, ‘Oh, I got this all on my own, and if you just tried harder, you could get it.’ That makes me literally furious. It is so bad for young women — and boys, too — to see that.”

She added, “I see people online, looking like I’ve never looked. And immediately I am like, oh my God, how do they look like that? I know the ins and outs of this industry, and what people actually use in photos, and I actually know what looks real can be fake. Yet I still see it and go, oh God, that makes me feel really bad. And I mean, I’m very confident in who I am, and I’m very happy with my life… I’m obviously not happy with my body, but who is?”

Eilish shared that when she was a kid, her dad and herself would talk about a certain type of person who’s “so insecure, or hyper-aware and self-conscious, that they never move in a weird way, or make a weird face, because they always want to look good. I’ve noticed that, and it makes me so sad. If you’re always standing a certain way, walking in a certain way, and always have your hair just so… It’s such a loss to always try to always look good. It’s such a loss of joy and freedom in your body.”