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NEWARK, NEW JERSEY - AUGUST 26: Taylor Swift attends the 2019 MTV Video Music Awards at Prudential Center on August 26, 2019 in Newark, New Jersey. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images)

Taylor Swift is remarkably candid in her new Rolling Stone interview, and isn’t holding anything back. In this piece, she opens up, and she discusses a wide range of topics – one being Kanye West.

On the subject of that phone call with Kanye that made headlines everywhere, and his song that mentions making her famous, Taylor gets really candid. “Some events took place to cause me to be pissed off when he called me a bitch. That was not just a singular event. Basically, I got really sick of the dynamic between he and I. And that wasn’t just based on what happened on that phone call and with that song – it was kind of a chain reaction of things.”

She doesn’t stop there. She continues by saying, “This chill ran through my body. I realized he is so two-faced. That he wants to be nice to me behind-the-scenes, but then he wants to look cool, get up in front of everyone and talk s—.”

Taylor lastly adds on the subject of Kanye, “And then I heard the song, I was like, ‘I’m done with this. If you want to be on bad terms, let’s be on bad terms, but just be real about it.’ And then he literally did the same thing to Drake. He gravely affected the trajectory of Drake’s family and their lives. It’s the same thing. Getting close to you, earning your trust, detonating you. I really don’t want to talk about it anymore because I get worked up, and I don’t want to just talk about the negative s— all day, but it’s the same thing.”

Swift also talks about her famous “squad.” “Yeah, I never would have imagined that people would have thought, ‘This is a clique that wouldn’t have accepted me if I wanted to be in it.’ Holy s—, that hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, ‘Oh, this did not go the way that I thought it was going to go.’ I thought it was going to be we can still stick together, just like men are allowed to do.”

Swift also talks about the good and the bad sides of fame, and how it has transformed her. She confesses, “I used to be like a golden retriever, just walking up to everybody, like wagging my tail. ‘Sure, yeah, of course! What do you want to know? What do you need?’  Now, I guess, I have to be a little more like a fox.”

She also goes into a little more detail about her transformation. “I needed to grow up in many ways. I needed to make boundaries, to figure out what was mine and what was the publics. That old version of me that shares unfailingly and unblinkingly with a world that is probably not fit to be shared with? I think that’s gone.”